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Income tax credit for low-income families, the payroll tax cut, that's just a few of them out there. what would the tax hikes mean for the average american? i mean, the economic impact, would that be felt immediately? >> obviously there's going to be a big impact here. when you total all the cuts set to expire, the tax hike is something like $400 million. they will not hit the same people but it is a hefty number. this is certainly something the average american would feel a whole lot at home. and to your point earlier, i think it would be interesting as there doesn't seem like there's a whole...

They were playing christmas music and people were filling up their carts. we have seen people come and go. i talked to the shoppers to ask what their plans are for the rest of the day, they are going home, taking a nap and getting up to eat thanksgiving dinner and heading out to another store to do more shopping. some even told me they will continue to shop through the night and into friday. so it looks like it could be a good shopping season for retailers. >> wow, amy, i have to ask you, in terms of their attitude, were they just trying to get in and get out? or did you find they were lingeri...

>> sure. i think that's become the way that negotiations are always held. i think that anybody who is involved in these things will say you don't give up the thing until you absolutely have to. and john boehner, for instance, putsing health care reform on the table is really an outlandish one, but all he's trying to do is widen the parameter to work out a deal. it is like the game of chicken and sometimes you lose the game. they are jeopardizing our economy. >> wanda, what do you think the agreement will look like? do you think republicans will abandon the call to the likes of glover norquist ...

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