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Other airlines are paying, but they don't. basically what it is, the union model is so broke, it drives business to be uncompetitive, and then drives business into bankruptcy. >> wait a minute. will you educate him. >> southwest is doing well. southwest pays their pilots fairly. southwest is flourishing. >> they don't charge for baggage fees, everything else. >> andrea said the rest of the guys went into bankruptcy to scab out the unions. that's the reason they're doing it. we'll turn to another subject. >> wait, wait, wait. is there a way that management can form unions in order to tell worke...

Management, lousy schedules, inferior planes, and they say labor issues. eric will blame the unions of course. i'll go to dana first. dana? >> you don't think i'm going to blame the unions? >> i certainly hope not. >> i agree on the bad plane thing. they have some of the oldest planes. if i have to travel american airlines i embrace for the experience. they were trading today at 25 cents. the value of the company is worth $83.3 million, which i think the united states government spends in about half a second. >> your brother is an airline pilot. is he with continental? >> yes. >> what do you t...

They fly these old md-80s, which can't be helping. today we saw the ceo step down. i wonder if he'll ask for a big bonus. it's not the pilots union because of the railroad labor act. they don't have the power to strike and take these -- >> of course not. it's a scab move by management to rip off their money and leave poor laborers there with the -- >> pilots make nothing to begin with. they have our lives in their hands, but -- >> they have the coolest job. wherever they go anywhere, they go, yeah, i'm a pilot. they walk into any bar, no competition. we're heaving out one part of this. forget ...

They fly these old md-80s, which can't be helping. today we saw the ceo step down. i wonder if he'll ask for a big bonus. it's not the pilots union because of the railroad labor act. they don't have the power to strike and take these -- >> of course not. it's a scab move by management to rip off their money and leave poor laborers there with the -- >> pilots make nothing to begin with. they have our lives in their hands, but -- >> they have the coolest job. wherever they go anywhere, they go, yeah, i'm a pilot. they walk into any bar, no competition. we're heaving out one part of this. forget ...

Other airlines are paying, but they don't. basically what it is, the union model is so broke, it drives business to be uncompetitive, and then drives business into bankruptcy. >> wait a minute. will you educate him. >> southwest is doing well. southwest pays their pilots fairly. southwest is flourishing. >> they don't charge for baggage fees, everything else. >> andrea said the rest of the guys went into bankruptcy to scab out the unions. that's the reason they're doing it. we'll turn to another subject. >> wait, wait, wait. is there a way that management can form unions in order to tell worke...