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Anyone in the white house, the reason he does those things in the interview is they do think something's going to happen. there's nobody around donald trump today, other than maybe his daughter, who doesn't think this results in charges against. and he knows that and he's worried about that. and he thinks he can talk his way out of anything. and he does have this ability to believe his own reality. he fees that the russians didn't interfere in the election. he thinks it was fake news. it doesn't matter what his advisers or lawyers tell him, it's what he thinks. he believes his guts in negotiat...

First of all, that you wouldn't remember the meeting with the these russians. secondly, knowing how the trump campaign ran, as mika and i did, pretty darn well for a while, we know you don't keep things from donald trump. there's no way there would be eight people meeting in trump tower, including paul manafort and jared kushner that donald trump didn't know about and sign off on. the cam didn't work that way. it just didn't. i want to follow up on what jim vandehei said for people who support donald trump out there, who hear him saying and other people saying getting intel from russians, from...

Treatments in a massive medicare scam. from farid fata's scam didn't just help him steal millions from insurance companies. it also might have taken lives. lives like the husband of my next guest. marietta crabtree whose husband donald was a patient of the doctor's. marietta is my guest today on "the real story." thank you for joining us today. >> good to be here gretchen. thank you. >> i know that you testified today. you wanted the doctor to hear your story about what happened to your husband based on his actions. what did you say? >> i read the victim statement that my husband had written b...