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It's not the same thing as live sports. it's not the same thing as watching some sort of stunt performance. it's a unique kind of pleasure. the game shows that we remember are the ones that run for a long time. >> the host of "jeopardy!" alex trebek. >> "jeopardy!" "wheel of fortune," "who wants to be a millionaire." there are plenty of other game shows. >> hello and welcome to scar face. >> that most people barely remember. >> they seem to be chasing something that could become the next millionaire. >> final answer? >> yes. >> they are looking to find the unique twists in that formula and cap...

>> as the show went on, and you won three straight emmys, the first person to do it, maybe the only one since bill cosby, you transformed in the words of the series creator vince gilligan, i love this, from mr. chips, because you were a chemistry teacher, to scar face. take a look. >> yeah. >> you clearly don't know who you're talking to. so let me clue you in. i am not in danger, skylar. i am the danger. a guy opens his store and gets shot, and you think that of me? no. i am the one who knocks. >> that's pretty different from the beginning. why do you think this became such an iconic series? ...

Smile >> he was featured in a local newspaper and posted selfies on social media. his i go leading to his downfall. greco's arrest follows that of super boss messina denaro last month, journalists and author has been living police protection since his box was, about the mafia was published in 2006 he is tells us it's normal for these bosses undercover to still want attention ukraine look at el chapo when he was working he wanted to meet shawn penn he wanted to make a movie, al capone wanted to go to the movie set of scar face. >> but despite these high profile arrests, there are still dangerou...

Like to see the folks at amc interested at doing breaking bad. >> surprise. >> when we were making the decision to do breaking bad, we absolutely were looking for an anti-hero show. and we wanted a guy that was going against the grain, that come check this out >> i see it >> come on, take it. >> check it out. walt. >> they always tell you you need to have a good one sentence pitch and i came up with we're going to take mr. chips and turn him into scar face. what we were really going for was change, walter white said it in first hour of the show, electrons they change energy levels, molecules c...

Fire. that wasn't real? >> tony? >> i definitely relate to that, because it is -- i'm not kidding, i would go to visit d.c. and people would say, oh, i'm the jonah of my office. and we were like, have you seen the show? jonah is not a celebrated character. >> and that reminds us something that depalma said, that scar face was supposed to be about this guy's downfall and then you had kids with posters of scar face. why do you end up in these certain characters? do you think it's because you're good at playing them or are they channeling something in you? >> it's a -- i had tremendous pain and t...