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Giving him national gas operating licenses while he was secretary of national resources in ukraine, that matter has never been investigated. right now it is sitting in front of ukraine's national anti-corruption bureau. i'm not making any allegations. i suspect the president is going to argue and i think he actually believes, jake, that he has a good-faith basis for asking about a investigation of these circumstances before he commits hard-earned taxpayer dollars to ukraine. >> well you're sure willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there -- >> the proceedings -- excuse me. the proceedin...

I think that the hearings are purposely being held in secret so they can control the narrative. chairman schiff with leak selectively parts of the transcripts that reaffirm his prejudice. >> we have no idea who is leaking just for the record. we have no idea who is leaking -- >> who -- okay. okay. i think he intentionally leaks certain parts of the transcript to friendly moneys of press who suck it up like a hoover deluxe. i think it is a mistake to close the hearings off from the american people and so they can't judge the evidence. i believe that democracy dies in darkness. there are no oppo...

When democrats do it, then it is nefarious and conspiracy and even though house republicans are in there too. >> well, i think it is conspiratorial. i think that speaker pelosi and chairman schiff have decided they're going to give the president a fair and impartial firing squad and they want to keep the proceedings secret so they can selectively leak portions that support their pre-disposition and make it available to friendly members of the immediata who i said suck it up like a hoover -- >> as they did when republicans were in charge during benghazi. senator john kennedy of louisiana, thank...