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now i'm being told that is actually a plane after the strike of a balloon and then the balloon then losing shape, going down. security analyst is back with us. juliette, maybe your eyeballs are more trained than mine. we can at least see, perhaps, with a tighter view it looked like that balloon was disintegrating, as we heard an eyewitness describe earlier. can you decipher what's going on here for me? i hear your doorbell. >> i'm sorry. so you've got the -- look, the f-22 or f-15, we don't know which ones yet, we'll get a debrief from the pentagon, from areas in the carolinas, the m...

together with you broadcasting balloons. rachel: that's right. if you get a little chilly, i have a heat or here, will. will: is it on? pete: i don't know why you haven't turned it on yet. rachel: because it's been cozy. pete: have you been to the great american ballpark in cincinnati? will: no. never been to cincinnati. pete: never been? will: have you been to cincinnati? everybody acts, like, wow. pete: dial up a diner for will in cincinnati, and you've got to have chili for breakfast. rachel: that sounds good right now. pete: on noodles. will: let's do a list of american cities by...

At the end, in this map largely shows the same thing. currently, reports are it's the over kansas city, missouri, as we speak. there's a photo yesterday, last night. you can see it there. it's visible to the naked eye, you can see from a photo taken at ground level in kansas city. pete: surveillance equipment, and we'll talk about the size in a moment, because it's not small. i think we could take care of it if we wanted to. will: okay. let's taken a look at in this balloon, first of all. it's known as a reconnaissance balloon carrying cameras and other equipment. it's at about, they say, 60,0...

That's the envelope as it was deflated, but the really important step -- we don't care so much about what is in the balloon. it is really so much about what is in the enstrumt tags that was dangling below it which we know was the size of a few buses, a few school bus sizes. >> the mechanics of it as well as the pay load of it. >> that's really critical. >> natasha had mentioned there's an acknowledgment from the u.s. military, the pentagon, that the pay load is of significant intelligence value. >> right. >> u.s. military, u.s. intelligence wants it to dissect, to understand. >> yeah. the fact...