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Nominee. whoever they are are going to have to be able to talk about this in an open and honest and vulnerable way. if they make mistakes, say something wrong as we all do, they can't fall into a defensive crouch and shift blame, they have to be able to help our country heal and reconcile. we need someone who can unite this nation and bring us together to common purpose again, and i think that all of us have to show we can be that kind of leader and i believe i am. >> is joe biden showing that with his answer about busing? >> look, i am telling you right now when yhe talked about not working a...

Ground with segregationist senators and on his past record on school busing. arlette signs is at the rainbow push convention in chicago, and he's in a weaker position today coming out of this debate. >> reporter: yeah, that's certainly right. and last night you saw this rocky debate purchase from joe biden. and one democratic ally who works closely with biden's team tells our colleague jeff zeleny that the former vice president knows he needs to do better. it's the one thing people are going to be watching for here in chicago does he further address those comments he made last night on school ...

Rights. if you look from the voting rights act all it way to ferguson when he wrote legislation in '94 that authorized the department of justice to sue police departments if they find a pattern and practice of discrimination that led to unconstitutional violations so he's always known there's a role for the federal government to prevent violations of civil rights in contrast to the constitution. so i just want to be clear about the state rights portion of that. >> he did oppose a states right -- or he did support one state's right to oppose busing which was delaware's. he had a lot of constitu...

Next weekend. and they say he needs to be energized by his supporters. what he needs to do is prove he's the front-runner. >> you've written a lot about the record, in fact back in april about his views about busing back in the '70s and how he opposed efforts to mandate busing. this is according to something you obtained. this is what joe biden wrote in 1977. he said my bill strikes at the heart of the injustice of court ordered busing. it prohibits from disrupting the educational system in the name of the constitution, whether there's no evidence the governmental officials intended to discrim...

Eliminate private insurance because eliminating private insurance, one, takes away what people like, who have it and like it. and two, it raises taxes not just on the wealthy but the middle class. and i thought making all of those points last night he did a very good job. >> i want to preface my next question by saying that when you look at joe biden's records -- joe biden's record, there are many data points where he's been on the right side of history when the comes to civil rights. but i know we disagree on this, but i'm citing fact, he misrepresented his record on busing. he has flipped on...