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You believe that the only way to your spiritual salvation is through the levels of scientology, then he literally holds the power of life and death over every scientologist, because he can say, you're out of here. you will get none -- no more scientology services. you're done. >> reporter: the church says hawkins is out to destroy scientology, adding that he supports an anti-scientology movement called anonymous, that activity protests the church. >> these are individuals who have proven not only that they will lie, but will get other people to lie. it's not much of a stretch to all get togeth...

Scientologist because he can say you are out of here. you will get no more scientology services. you're done. >> reporter: adding that he supports an anti-scientology movement called anonymous that actively protests the church. >> these are individuals who have proven not only that they will lie, but that they will get other people to lie. it's not much of a stretch for them to get together, corroborate their stories and find other people who left years ago to try and corroborate it even more and come to the news media and attack the very person who removed them. >> reporter: the church provid...

The church, he would have never spoken against miscavige. >> if you want to stay in the church you have to do what he says? >> that's right. that's right. he literally holds -- if you're a scientologist and you believe in scientology, and you believe the only way to your spiritual salvation is through the levels of scientology, then he literally holds the power of life and death over every scientologist because he can say, you're out of here. you will get no more scientology services. you're done. >> reporter: the church says hawkins is out to destroy scientology, adding that he supports a mov...