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We will looking at potential criminal violations and there's important differences there. up, it's way harder to prove a criminal case, the burden of proof in a criminal says is beyond a reasonable doubt and just a preponderance which means 50.01% and, two, of course, the penalties are very different. criminal cases, people can go to jail. civil cases, we're talking about monetary penalties. two different tracks, this is on the civil side. >> and when you look at these subpoenas, again, on the civil side as you point out, based on what we've seen from other members of the trump family, what we...

Trous over statements what the properties are worth. this is happening on the civil side. we're talking lawsuits here, not prosecutions. that's a separate question. letitia james is careful about the words she uses. she said members of the trump family were involved, involved. that's the word she used over and over again. that is very different from proving criminal intent beyond a reasonable doubt. the attorney general said the reason we need to do these depositions, your honor, we don't exactly know the intent. we need to question them about their intent. big steps on the civil side. i would...

I felt a little pain, so i ended up leaving to go to urgent care. but i never got a chance to speak on behalf of my son. as a concerned parent, that is all for what we are asking for at this point there that's been political overreach and control over our kids for so long and we haven't been asking for a ban on masks. all we want is a choice. we deserve the right to choose whether our kids go to school with a mask or not. >> sean: i agree with you in principle, completely. they did this and virginia. by the way, kids have been in school, and florida since august of 2020. i will ask you, his at...

Up leaving to go to urgent care. but i never got a chance to speak on behalf of my son. as a concerned parent, that is all for what we are asking for at this point there that's been political overreach and control over our kids for so long and we haven't been asking for a ban on masks. all we want is a choice. we deserve the right to choose whether our kids go to school with a mask or not. >> sean: i agree with you in principle, completely. they did this and virginia. by the way, kids have been in school, and florida since august of 2020. i will ask you, his attorney, do you have any legal rec...

Criminal investigation or not, at the end of the day she is entitled to take depositions in a civil investigation and the judge would have to probably go there any way. as i mentioned this eight-page ruling with the amount of case precedent represented here and clearly read the briefs, and the mazar's let every came to the conclusion that new york attorney general's office came to is this is something to explore why one thing to mention is this the end of the civil investigation process. once they are deposed if they are and lose the appellate proceedings, that will really be the end of it on ...