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Manslaughter charges in new mexico, you have to show reckless disregard for someone's rights who ultimately results in the individual's death. so all of that has to be investigated. but that's just on the criminal side. then you have the civil side. already it's being reported that it seemed like the set was not being done this a way, exercising the appropriate amount of caution to insure the safety of the individuals participating in the movie. that really rings very clear that there could be civil, a civil responsibility, civil case that will come out of it, a wrongful death case. but here's...

Can do is get this over to doj quickly on the criminal side, get it into the courts quickly on the civil side. and they can do both those things, by the way. they should, why not, they're both available. at that point, the people we need to be looking at are, again, merrick garland on the criminal side and judges, whatever judge in the district court in the district of columbia gets this case. look, judges can move as quickly as they want. i've had judges put what i thought were ridiculous time frames on me. "i need your brief in two weeks." i would think, i can't do that. you know what, as a ...

Attorney and was not part of the executive branch. if merrick garland chooses not to charge this, where does that leave the committee? where does that leave congress? where does that leave our balance of powers? where does that leave the justice department? this is a really moment of truth for merrick garland coming up right here. >> elie, we know the strategy in trump world, right, is to try to delay at all costs. usually that's through, you know, extending litigation. the m.o. was to sue people and take them to court long enough so i guess they would run out of resources or run out of time, ...

How do you see it playing out, laura? >> unlike last time when you had thumbing of the nose of people who had been subpoenaed, you have a very different white house a very different attorney general who is adamant about the rule of law coming first. what it means is that subpoenas are supposed to be complied with. the average person cannot ignore it. any time someone wants to challenge the validity of the subpoena, you still have to do it on a question by question basis. you can't just say executive privilege. i'm not going to comment at all. you have to actually address it. the idea of use th...

Back to stand? >> at this point there's really nothing pending specifically against mr. cuomo. if there were a criminal charge that came out of this i investigation, his lawyers would be able to push back, challenge the evidence and get additional facts. in this moment it's a report about not just mr. cuomo's behavior but what looks like a culture of harassment and intimidation that many people were complicit in. i think that's really critical element of this story that gets lost. >> okay. there are questions there particularly on the civil side. on the criminal question here, in layman's term...