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Ideological difference. go back 20 years to clarns thomas. at the end of the day, i think senator collins is lying because every single nominee that the president is going to pick, whether it is a man, whether a woman, indian american, african-american, is going to want to end roe v. wade at some level. either she needs to make a commitment now and say i can't vote for anybody while this president is office because i know what they're going to want to do or see should say i want to get in line with the rest of my party. because that's the reality we're facing. even if it is a woman, they will ...

Where the president of the united states has a lawyer type his name in a legal pleading and then type his alias in right beside it and file that legal pleading in a federal court, in a courthouse where the president appoints the judges. >> well, yes. you know, it has been quite a day of stormy daniels news as you pointed out, trying to get a little more information on what this threat and physical threat was and who it came from. and just thinking about where we are and where we've been and my reporting career spans the clarns thomas, and hill hearings where we thought we heard things we could...

First, because this before we even get to the legalisms of it, i just want us to pause over the fact that we live in a country where the president of the united states has a lawyer type his name in a legal pleading and then type his alias in right beside it and file that legal pleading in a federal court, in a courthouse where the president appoints the judges. >> well, yes. you know, it has been quite a day of stormy daniels news as you pointed out, trying to get a little more information on what this threat and physical threat was and who it came from. and just thinking about where we are an...

Toll look at this. >> they were really hurt, they said, this is serious, they had to do something. at that time, conniers is gone, the rest have to go. now we're seeing it happen. the trickle down effect is going to be enormous, and it's leading to the white house. and then when we go to the issue of women. i'm thinking about my conversation with gloria steinem this week. she's seen a sea change when it comes to women, women being believed. think about years ago. anita hill, how she was treated when she was testifying about clarns thomas in this hearing for him to be confirmed as supreme court...

I'm into bernie sanders. it's a park to them. it's a status symbol that may seem more important than their peers. >> what we need is spring college tuition and free health care like they have in denmark. the guy sounds loik he should be selling in coney island. he makes obama politically look like clarns thomas. >> i've had enough, but we're sincere. >> if you'd like to come on the program, you won't have to see them. or deal with them. just you and me, 15 minutes we'll talk about. >> if you can embrace practices that kill the poor. and that's what socialism does. >> yes, it does. and i will e...