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Own the shutdown. he is being painted publicly as someone who doesn't care about the human impact of the shutdown as well. and that will live with him for a long time. >> then there is the ball game, score keeping of all of this victory, pelosi last night when donald trump agreed to hold off on the state of the union until after the union was up and running again. he commented on that today. we'll run this and talk about it on the other side. >> well, it is really her choice. i would have double it in a different location but i think that would be very disrespectful to the state of the union, ...

Question is because -- >> i want the answer, and you should want the answer, too. no congressman asked him, either. >> you know why? >> they didn't. >> because the republicans were not interested in the answer, that's why. >> well neither were the democrats. >> no, no, no. >> apparently, neither were the democrats. >> i didn't nap like an idiot, yesterday, but won't make that same mistake today, it's not about me, and they were trying to make them look like partisans and they were not drilling down on the interference. that's the tragedy, the shame and the sin that is revealed by this transcri...

>> so i think tax reform done right can move us toward a balanced budget. i think it's incredibly important that the senate with senator corker and senator toomey have reached agreement that this more accurately reflects economic growth from a tax reform and really gives more honest score keeping in the budget -- >> neil: the budget for about $1.5 trillion in tax cuts. are you comfortable with that over ten years? >> what that does is allow us to get meaningful growth and allows us to move towards permanence. i preach about it and so does the speaker a lot. we want to make bold changes. we wan...

The wrong direction right now for the white house. we saw overnight the pendulum start to swing away from where they wanted it to be. why the rush? will that change? >> i think today is critically important for that and the messaging that pence is delivering on the hill and in his dinner tonight. a clearer sense tonight of what will happen next with this bill. >> what is the prediction, caitlin? >> i'm not sure. i'm struggling to see a path here. there might still be one. people put faith in mitch mcconnell and his ability to rangel h wrangle his members. >> let's listen in to what house speak...

Think legislation should be and the senate doing the same as well. you have senate republicans who are not in nearly as much political peril as you are house republicans which is why we saw this rush to really get a political vote on the board yesterday. which we saw. what we did see from two very important people which just goes to talk to you about how long this could drag out, two people involved, mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader said that the senate consideration will be scheduled following the completion, procedural and budgetary score keeping reviews meaning the senate is no...