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To the grievance industry. not dealing with the core problems in the can american community. with us now are larue lewis mccoy, a professor of sociology and black cities, city college of new york. all right, what was your reaction to the interview with mr. porter? >> i believe the interview with mr. porter was good on a number of levels. he talked about the ways to work together but i think the importance is he pointed out there has been a historic tension between al sharpton and lil wayne. if you look back to 2007, al sharpton leads a campaign about decency and hip-hop. in fact, his first goa...

To the grievance industry. not dealing with the core problems in the can american community. with us now are larue lewis mccoy, a professor of sociology and black cities, city college of new york. all right, what was your reaction to the interview with mr. porter? >> i believe the interview with mr. porter was good on a number of levels. he talked about the ways to work together but i think the importance is he pointed out there has been a historic tension between al sharpton and lil wayne. if you look back to 2007, al sharpton leads a campaign about decency and hip-hop. in fact, his first goa...

To the grievance industry. not dealing with the core problems in the can american community. with us now are larue lewis mccoy, a professor of sociology and black cities, city college of new york. all right, what was your reaction to the interview with mr. porter? >> i believe the interview with mr. porter was good on a number of levels. he talked about the ways to work together but i think the importance is he pointed out there has been a historic tension between al sharpton and lil wayne. if you look back to 2007, al sharpton leads a campaign about decency and hip-hop. in fact, his first goa...

That's the american way. everybody's starting to realize we're levering a bunch of folks behind. we have to find the core problems that we all created together and find way out of it. it's not working. >> if washington was watching you right now the political leaders in washington, what would you say? >> i would say first of all when i listen to them talk i hear common ground? 81% of the people like background checks. we believe in second amendment rights. there seems to be common ground. everybody agrees we ought to put every american back to work. get it done. get the resources down to the g...

These folks seem to more interested in making up for the past than in n a level playing field. it's very disturbing. >> paul: democrats seem to be still back go perez but how significant is the vote on the floor? >> i think the republicans are going to push to have 60 votes for the nomination. you had senior members against the nomination. grassley and hatch and cornyn and others. hatch said a lot of people don't feel that he has been straightforward with us. this is the first time that identifying one of core problems with this nomination. mr. perez is telling one story under oath but documen...