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>> i have democracy. >> democracy is what minority -- majority leader souter can address because we had an improper vote. over a quarter of the assembly did not vote because of the abuse of power that has gone on. the speaker apologized earlier in the week. i hope he will apologize again. it is outrageous the way they have violated rule after rule in the assembly. >> no rules violated. >> i am going to go to representative scott souter and give you a chance to answer that. representative, souter, would you say that this is about trampling on the rights of unions? is that what is going on here?...

The governor's position is not whether he can do this it is that he has to if this deadline for the refinancing and the savings is not met. >> joining me are two members of the wisconsin state assembly republican scott souter and democrat peter barka. peter representative barker i am going to start with you. are these democrats coming back? >> well, eventually they certainly will come back but obviously they were fighting against the governor trying in 6 days to take away 50 years of basic rights of workers that started in wisconsin. those are wisconsin values that we all hold dear and they ar...

The governor's position is not whether he can do this it is that he has to if this deadline for the refinancing and the savings is not met. >> joining me are two members of the wisconsin state assembly republican scott souter and democrat peter barka. peter representative barker i am going to start with you. are these democrats coming back? >> well, eventually they certainly will come back but obviously they were fighting against the governor trying in 6 days to take away 50 years of basic rights of workers that started in wisconsin. those are wisconsin values that we all hold dear and they ar...

Argument that representative souter is making you are delaying the inevitable. how long are they going to stay out of state? you don't take your ball and bat and say i am not going to play any more. these people are paid by the taxpayers. how do they justify not doing their job because they don't like what is being done. get on the floor yell and scream, do what you have to do but do your job. >> it is interesting because representative souter talks about this fiscal crisis. this should be a fiscal bill. i agree with him. we have fiscal issues. how do you justify permanently taking away the ri...

>> i have democracy. >> democracy is what minority -- majority leader souter can address because we had an improper vote. over a quarter of the assembly did not vote because of the abuse of power that has gone on. the speaker apologized earlier in the week. i hope he will apologize again. it is outrageous the way they have violated rule after rule in the assembly. >> no rules violated. >> i am going to go to representative scott souter and give you a chance to answer that. representative, souter, would you say that this is about trampling on the rights of unions? is that what is going on here?...