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When it comes to these classified documents, there's just no getting around. these do not belong to him, as you said, these are the governments records. the release of these documents, the improper handling of these documents can, by definition, cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the united states. so, i think i'd -- say this as a guided argument but it could be perhaps a dishonest argument. >> katie, you know, it's amazing when you step back. we are covering this day in, day out. but when you step back, and you realize, we're getting closer and closer to a former pre...

Someone close to trump who said this, quote, i'm not sure justice knows what it's getting into. this is a case about presidential records and executive powers. it's got supreme court written all over it. he's going to go all out. what do you think that? >> well, that is certainly trump's mo. the idea that this is about the presidential records act and executive privilege i think it's wrong when it comes to these classified documents. even if there is something that is subject to executive privilege, and i think there's just not, it most certainly it's not discussed by documents, which are crea...

And then, a lawyer who was a former general counsel to the governor of florida who's last name is huck. he's the one that strikes me as most political, the one who's the member of the federalist society. the one whose wife was on the short list for supreme court nominees by donald trump, and he has never served in the federal government. so, the first three seem like they're strong candidates. i don't know much about them, but his background would suggest that perhaps, he has less experience reviewing these kinds of things and the others. >> frank, help us understand this. because on monday, w...

Wrong, and i think the government should appeal it. it's deeply flawed in a number of wades. i don't think the appointment of a special master's gonna hold up. the law here i think is pretty clear that the justice department should be able to review these documents. if it got to the point where they wanted to actually put the documents before the grand jury without sanitizing them, and protecting the deliberative process, then you will litigate the issue. but for her to come in now, and sort of this abstract thing, and say, decide what is potentially privileged, not just the question, which is...