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How crazy things are getting. as crazy as you think it is, it's about three times as bad. >> that is true so, you -- you went to college. you went to yale. them you left. you have not spent a life in academia. to write this book, you had to immerse yourself in what was going on in campuses. what was your reaction? >> i was an adjunct at yale for a little while. i'm a fellow there. i stay involved and i pretty much know what's going on there and elsewhere. but i did not set to write a novel, a couple of things that compelled me to, really. the first is i went to a conference on free speech at y...

It is. it's about three times as bad. >> that is true. so you went to college. you went to yale. then you left. you have not spent a life in academia to write this book you obviously had to immerse yourself in what was currently going on on campuses. what was your reaction to it? >> i was an adjunct at yale for a little while. and i'm a fellow there. so i stay involved. and i pretty much know what's going on there and elselsewhere. did i not set out to write a novel. a couple things happened that compelled me to, really. the first is i want went to a conference on free speech at yale. and 200 ...