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No one has given us this proof because it does not exist. >> joining us now former undersecretary of state and the author of the new book "information wars." we-lavrov saying he's told that donald trump has issued a statement claiming he talked to him and told him don't you dare interfere in our election and lavrov says no, we didn't discuss it. >> he's the pro of pros. by the way if he were writing a screen play version and said on it day president trump was indicted by the house, on the day the inspector general released a report, that he was meeting with the russian foreign minister, you sa...

We did not see these facts. no one has given us this proof because it simply does not exist. >> joining us now, former undersecretary of state in the obama administration and author of the new book "information wars." rick, the part we showed before the commercial where lavrov is told that donald trump has issued a statement, claiming that he talked to him and told him don't you dare interfere in our election, and lavrov says oh, no, he didn't. we never even discussed it. >> lavrov is the pro of pros. if you were writing the screen play version of the trump presidenty and you said on the day t...

Thank you for being here. betsy, let me start with you. if robert mueller tells the american public if i go before congress i can't tell them haven't that they haven't already seen, what is the value for them in hearing from robert mueller? >> the argument that democrats make is more of a political argument than anything else. they say right now americans have access to the screen play version of the mueller investigation. they want to put it on tv. they know that many miles per hours are not going to spend hours and hours reading hundreds of pages written by a federal prosecutor and that the ...