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The more sdny digs. >> it seems that the president was using rudy giuliani to get help from the ukrainians, but does it show the ukrainians were in the driver's seat? who do we think was in charge in this situation? >> well, you know, to look at it from the foreign policy angle, i tried to think for the time i was in the government at least and if there was any precedent i looked in the past, in research to see if there had been any time where the personal attorney of a president had been used to pursue these types of channels. there's certainly no precedent i could find at least, especially w...