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Matters involving possible how do they put it, wrongdoing or criminality on the part of executive officers. >> right, and you know, where was that fortunatelied? in the heat of watergate when nixon was trying to claim privilege over stuff where what he was doing when that stuff was finally exposed was plotting crimes. it turns out that can never be a privileged discussion. these fights are -- these fights are louder than they are seae o the part of the white house. >> so far the president is only winning legal points inside the william barr justice department. nowhere outside of that like say ...

And the justice department said that's okay because he has complete immunity from any kind of congressional subpoena. he points out that memo from the justice department isn't really citing case law so much as citing itself. citing memos from that legal office over the decades. and chairman nadler points out that one of the justice department rules that is completely ignored in that memo is he says the justice department's own be long-standing policy is that "executive privilege should not be invoked to conceal evidence of wrongdoing or criminality on the part of executive officers." amazing h...