Think the answer is no. especially i if it's the criterion you late out. if it were done to americans, would it be torture? we water boarded, in the s.e.a.l. program, we water boarded our s.e.a.l.s and we didn't consider it torture. at the beginning of the report, it so says 7 of 9 detainees produced any unique intelligence value. what about the others? there's 82% that they can't account for. the report claims with sort of a wave of the hand, there was no intelligence of value produced that we wouldn't have gotten through other means, that's unknowable. if you talk to the people involved with...