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Shields'" detections. a smaller area has allowed much tighter search patterns based entirely on visual search principles. in other words, we have intensified our search in the visual search area. just a bit of housekeeping, at my last press conference i said i could come back to you with the precise timing of when the signals were detected by the "ocean shield." the first detection took place on saturday, the 5th of april at 4:45 p.m. perth time. the second detection took place on saturday, the 5th of april at 9:27 p.m. perth time. the third detection took place on tuesday the 8th of april at ...

Locate some concentrated area of wreckage, that's where you and your kind of expertise would come in. how would one go about retrieving something in the depths of the ocean because, clearly, retrieving the stuff on the surface is far different than retrieving that that may be at the bottom. how do you go about that? >> well, yeah, actually the very first step is locating the debris obviously. but that search is going to be part of what our companies, our salvage industry does. we do that work. and we would search with side scan sonar, underwater vehicles, search patterns, looking on the seaflo...

Aircraft was, but they didn't get to it while the pings were still operational. it took them two years, and it answered the riddle. >> they call this body of ocean the roaring 40s because these seas are so overwhelming. they're talking about some of these waves getting up 32 feet high. how are they even supposed to search out there? >> well, you're exactly right. extremely challenging, and very adverse conditions, right? so part of this is using gps technology, which is something that is far more accessible now than some of the past investigations some of the other guests have talked about. bu...

Boxes up. this answered the riddle. >> shawn, look at these -- they call this body of ocean, the roarierroroaring 40s. how are they supposed to even search out there. >> well, you're exactly right. extremely challenging and very adverse conditions, right? so part of this is using gps technology which is something that is far more accessible now then in the past investigations, some of the other guests have talked about. but using that technology with known search patterns. these folks are trained to do this. they know how to do this but that still doesn't negate the size of the task at hand. j...

They did get one of the black boxes up. this answered the riddle. >> shawn, look at these -- they call this body of ocean, the roarierroroaring 40s. how are they supposed to even search out there. >> well, you're exactly right. extremely challenging and very adverse conditions, right? so part of this is using gps technology which is something that is far more accessible now then in the past investigations, some of the other guests have talked about. but using that technology with known search patterns. these folks are trained to do this. they know how to do this but that still doesn't negate t...