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That van. that's a picture on his mind right there of what he thinks about, what he talks about, and what he obsesses about. it's his motive. if i was running that case, that van i would have at the courthouse and ask the judge to bring the jury down to the garage so they could walk around and look at it. why would he do this. look at the van. mentally ill. doctors can tell you, but i think he can make right from wrong after the 14 bombs. i think he's criminally culpable from what we see in the evidence. he's responsible. was there anybody else. that's a big question. you've been on the road, ...

A week. a couple of i.d. prints were on the outside of the envelope. the big question is he acting alone. i'm sure the commanders are pressing that hard, did he buy more timers? did he buy more pipe. where is the place? the place could be in the van, or the place could be at an accomplice's house or garage or storage facility he rents. there's a place, and in that place there's probably tape, pipe -- >> supplies. >> yes. >> i want to go back, especially when you bring up the d.c. snipers. i want to play more, giving this background. the family's lawyer gave his opinion. take a listen to this. ...

Of his van. joining me now this morning is jim kavanaugh, former alcohol, tobacco & firearms. you heard the background. is this at all typical? does he fit the profile of a would-be bomber? >> he's not all that unusual. we have had bombers like this that live on the fringes, their mind obsesses, fanatics if you will. you remember, morgan, the d.c. snipers. they lived in a car, taking showers at the "y," watching the news at the ymca. this man lived in his van, working at a strip club on and off. it's not unusual. he's a spree bomber, 14 bombs in

Before a grand jury, he'll be indicted, and he'll have a trial in new york. now that he's been arrested, now they can do all these searches they couldn't do before. they can look at his social media more extensively. they can look at his phones, computers he may have had, search the van you're looking at there that he apparently lived in, and they can do a thorough search to see if there's any trace materials that mietz be useful, talk to his friends and neighbors. there's a lot of work to be done. they haven't analyzes these 14 bombs. it's unusual to have intact bombs in a bombing case. usual...

Policies of trump are going to help this guy. i mean, you know, if trump promotes, you know, giant tax breaks for wall street, investors -- i mean this guy living in a van is not going to be helped by that policy or eliminating health care. he's not helped by that policy. he's not joining it for those policy reasons. it's more like he's joining it because of sort of a twisted reason he has inside his head. you know, witnesses have said he was racist, he was racially insensitive to everyone, and yet he's a minority himself. he has a lot of distinct issues. look. he's lev ee's living in his car....