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Him from kim jong un's younger sister, also one of the advisor advisors. question: the north koreans, matt, are clearly involved in a charm offensive here. will it work? >> good for them for trying. but great for mike pence for realizing that this is a regime that treats its own people abysmally, horribly. i think there are times to talk and there are times to show a stone face. mike pence did the right thing when you look at their record. >> chris: karen? >> there was no interaction between the two, we were assured. i would be interesting in there when he came up with that seating chart. >> c...

Vice president pence will be over there for the opening ceremony. you could have -- we don't know the seating chart but you could have this sister and the u.s. vice president sitting certainly under the same roof. >> yeah. well, this is important because mike pence, the vice president, said look we're not ruling out discussions with north korea while he's at the olympics. he's not trying to set them up. moon jae-in, who does want to see a dialogue between north korea and the u.s. could very well try to arrange something, make it look accidental. all sorts of possibilities that can occur. you k...

All of a sudden it's a secret meeting? there is nothing secret about this. there were literally hundreds and hundreds of cameras when the president spoke to vladimir putin. we saw the replay a thousand times probably of the handshake. and then he is seated at the dinner with 39 other people. putin son the other side next to the first lady of the united states. all of a sudden a secret meeting? nothing secret when there are 40 people at the dinner. ainsley: what do you think she thought i'm sitting next to vladimir putin the media is going to have hay day. it wasn't her decision. you said angel...

Those senators who can be very vulnerable, so a not so veiled threat during that lunch. >> interesting map of the seating chart, in that senator heller would be seated next to the president, given everything that we know. jason carroll, thank you so much for setting it up. let's discuss all of the above and more. kevin sherden is with me. he's the former senior adviser from mitt romney's presidential campaign and also with us, adam gentleson, former communications director for the retired democratic senator harry reid. so, guys, good to have both of you on. let's just talk first about, kevin, ...

That is something some senators believe the president can do, is help urge some republicans to start supporting this. we'll see if that actually happens. between now and next week, he does not have any more travel on his schedule this week that's health care focused. we'll see about next week, brooke. >> staying on health care, jeff, we got -- cameras were able to roll for just the tip-top of this luncheon. we heard from the president, and the seating chart is fascinating, right? because sitting to the president's right is republican from nevada dean heller who was a no on the original version...