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Guns or take them away. >> he can say whatever he wants. this isn't about wayne lapierre. this is about a public wanting to be safe on their streets. this is about the public having the right to buy arms and the right to protect themselves and the right to use them for sport or hunting. but, also, it's about the public's right to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. that's in everybody's interests. if you go back to 1999, wayne lapierre testified on behalf of the nra that background checks were appropriate and should be done and congress back in 1968 actually made them...

Most things. i do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom and that is, for example, if you're drinking we shouldn't let you drive because you'll kill somebody else. if you are carrying a gun, we shouldn't let you on an airplane. there's a lot of things that we do -- if there's asbestos in the classroom we should remove the kids from classroom until you clean the air. if you want to own a gun, i certainly think it's constitutionally protected. you certainly have a right to have a gun if you want. if you want to eat a lot and get fat, you have a right to do it. but our j...

Shouldn't let you drive because you'll kill somebody else. if you are carrying a gun, we shouldn't let you on an airplane. there's a lot of things that we do -- if there's asbestos in the classroom we should remove the kids from classroom until you clean the air. if you want to own a gun, i certainly think it's constitutionally protected. you certainly have a right to have a gun if you want. if you want to eat a lot and get fat, you have a right to do it. but our job of government is to inform the public. >> mayor bloomberg being thanks as always. and here with me wayne lapierre of the natio...

The only question is are you going to deprive gays and lesbians of this right because of their sex or the sexual orientation. >> handicap this. the "time" magazine about justice kennedy that he is the decider, how do you think this goes? >> i'm not going to get in the business -- >> you've talked about this already. you've been doing the handicapping. you don't think it will be close. >> what i said -- i think we're going to win but i don't think we're going to win 5-4. i think this is a basic civil rights issue. i don't think this is a kind of issue that will divide the court the way some oth...

Constitutional right to marry for gays and lesbians? >> every time the supreme court makes a constitutional decision, it's making a decision -- a certain fundamental rights are too important to be left to the ballot box. we've done that with race. we've done that with women. we've done that with every discriminated class. and, remember, when the united states supreme court outlawed the bans on interracial marriage in 1967, 64% of the american people opposed interracial marriage and yet when that decision came down, there wasn't a ripple. >> was roe v. wade decided too quickly? >> it was an ent...