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The processes, and let's fix the human failures that have led to some of these shootings without having the government infringe upon a constitutional right. that's the sweet spot of this debate. >> angela real quickly because i'm up against the end of the show here. this rally in washington on the 24th, what do you think will be accomplished? what do you think students hope to accomplish? >> i know what they hope to accomplish, and that is for once, that the conversation stops shifting to people -- you know, the threat that the second amendment is somehow going to be violated. that is not what...

I think we have to stop -- rick, you even mentioned it, that folks are concerned about their second amendment rights being taken away. the second amendment doesn't say what kind of arms you can bear. i think we have to be mindful of that too and be very careful with that rhetoric. that's not what these actions were about. >> i think he's also talking about the political calculus that democrats and republicans will have to take as well. >> sure. >> and i think democrats are going to have to wonder do they want to motivate the second amendment folks because then that may put them in jeopardy of ...