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And playing safe. what do you make of what is going on at the moment? >> i think they're really cowardly because they know in their hearts there's no need -- we're talking about assault weapons here. i've watched this show and no one has ever given a good reason for having them unless our government is going to invade them or something which of course is asinine so i don't get it. good for the senator for going forward. she's great and she's right. i do think newtown was kind of a turning point, even if we don't get all that we need to happen immediately. it broke something in all of us but al...

Turning point, even if we don't get all that we need to happen immediately. it broke something in all of us but also in the barriers to go forward. i believe they're crumbled. i believe people will stack them up but the break has been made. >> martin, you have four children. what do you make of -- i prefer to call it a gun safety debate now. gun control seems to send the wrong kind of tone to people. they get very exercised about second amendment liberty, freedom, so on. change the word control to safety. it's about making america a safer country. why do you think so few politicians are taking...

Now. gun control seems to send the wrong kind of tone to people. they get very exercised about second amendment liberty, freedom, so on. change the word control to safety. it's about making america a safer country. why do you think so few politicians are taking what i would see to be a courageous moral lead on this? >> what's new. i was very proud of -- >> president obama. >> -- our senator from california, senator feinstein stood up and made us all very proud here in california. good for her. you know, this is going to be a long arduous climb up a very steep mountain. it's not going to be eas...

National rifle association. >> all of our second amendment liberty, all of the rights we worked so hard for to defend, all of what we know as good and right about america, all of it could be lost if barack obama gets reelected. we know if president obama gets a second term, america as we know it, will be on its way to being lost forever. >> but that was just the start of it. mitt romney laid it on pretty thick as well. >> the right to bear arms is so plainly stated, so unambiguous that liberals have a hard time challenging it directly. instead they have been imploying every imaginable ruse and...