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Guy controlled by the gun lobby, then we'll have some change. now we won't eliminate it totally but we could greatly reduce a lot of things. cigarettely take a lot of the killing power down and still not hurt people's second amendment rights. you know, if you turn the second amendment richard into a suicide pact for all of us what good is it? and we are in an america designed by the gun lobby. they have controlled the congress for the last 25 years, mid-90. . they have controlled everything, loosened the gun laws in midwest of the states. i mean, if more guns make you safe texas would be the s...

Happened in odessa. thank you, tiffany, and my best to your family. >> thank you so much. >> you betcha. frank figliuzzi is still with us. frank, we were trying to get as much information as much as possible from tiffany, but understanding she is an eyewitness who went through a horrific afternoon. we can't confirm all the details she gave us, but from what she told us, what were you able to take away in terms of what happened today in odessa? >> first, there was a powerful interview, richard, from someone who's just been a very traumatic experience. and we're grateful that her family is still...

Helpless, richard. i want people to understand something. you can stop these if you know someone who appears headed on this journey to violence. people don't just snap. there are warning signs and indicators that unfortunately, because america has become a combat theater, we need to understand. and they include things, obviously like people increasingly talking about hurting themselves or others. violence as a solution. practicing more and more with weapons. recent acquisition of weapons while talking about hurting others. language of despondency and helplessness, "i can't take it anymore, i'v...

And emotional aspects. but in washington, the political ramifications will certainly be felt, richard. >> great context as always, kelly, kelly o'donnell, our white house correspondent with the latest from the white house and the context and the current speed and tempo, as she was describing, and how that's changed. so appreciate it, thank you, kelly. over the phone, a texas state senator, thank you for being with us, senator. as i was saying earlier to another texan, julian castro, this is a horrific day for texans. >> it was a pleasant, quiet summer day in west texas, to be broken up by such...

Motor officer tells him he will impound the car and arrest him. he already did ten years for attempted murder. he knows having that rifle is a federal and state crime in california. he murder the chp motor officer and gets in a shoot theout and is eventually killed. often time we have criminal culpability and now a trooper or any kind of law enforcement interconvenience and then we get the shooting. now is it possible, richard, just possible he was on his way to do a mass shooting? it certainly is possible. and maybe the trooper got some information. it's probably unlikely but certainly possib...