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>> what's the first step here, get rid of him and move on, or move on and keep him? >> we're asking our members that question right now, chris, we're member driven, know this is a big decision for the president, but i agree with chuck, who is the next one in line? >> okay, thank you. well said by both you guys. thank you for the intelligent viewing of this whole thing. breaking tonight, chuck todd and derek bennett, thanks so much speaking for the veterans. coming up, let obama be obama. the president's forceful defense of his foreign policy. gone is the idea that the united states needs to ...

It makes main stream politics much more the dominant force and people want sensible laws. even here, 99% of the people polled and said they wanted sensible gun control laws here. why can't we just have that? >> it all defines what you mean by sensible. >> it means not taking the second amendment right, not taking away their right to bear arms. but come on, give me a break. >> there's huge disagreement about what sensible is. that's where this grinds to a halt. i think we probably agree on what is sensible. but there is huge disagreement out there in the country about what is sensible. >> mark ...

The gun lobby's thing that it's not guns that kill, it's people that kill. well, this was a so-called good person with a gun. it just puts the whole darn thing on hits head. and in australia, they have to vote there. which means everybody votes. everybody has to come out to vote. this affects the whole body politic. it makes main stream politics much more the dominant force and people want sensible laws. even here, 99% of the people polled and said they wanted sensible gun control laws here. why can't we just have that? >> it all defines what you mean by sensible. >> it means not taking the se...

Real, i have to say, central florida attitude toward guns, which is that guns are a constitutional, second amendment right. this is a different attitude that you see in a lot of big cities like washington or new york where lots of people are much more suspicious of guns. and i thought, again, that was indicative of a juror who was primed to agree with the defense theory of the game. george zimmerman had a gun, he was entitled to a gun and entitled to use it. >> a jury of his peers almost. >> thank you. coming up on this show. after the verdict is read, what happens to the jury in a case the wh...

Maybe reform is more possible than in states that are more bright red in their political affiliation. but is there something that the country should understand from these states where it might really be possible to move ahead? >> i think the most important thing, the thing that i'm most hopeful about are the five pieces of legislation we put before our state today, our governor leading the charge jack markell is the universal background check. as you know and you have covered on your show in great detail, in 1968, in the wake of the violence of that year, the united states congress passed the ...