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>> they did. 9%. let's think about it. the second amendmented was produced and passed when we were using muskets. the army and the militia had the same weaponry and they couldn't hit each other a hundred yards away. so it's, you know, again, and i'm not advocating let's take everybody's guns away. let's just keep them out of the hands of crazy people. >> richard. 70% of nra members report a background check on all gun sales.

>> to do injury that may be far greater than any of those other strumts that you mentioned. therefore, what would you suggest? >> i'm asking you, you're running for president. i mean, a baseball bat and, you know, a nine millimeter, or a glock as this young man used, those are two different things. >> we have to recognize that we are a country of laws. and we have a supreme law called the united states constitution. and the second amendment of that constitution gives citizens the right to keep and bare arms. therefore, anything that we're going to do has to be done with respect to the second a...

>> we don't have to agree on everything to agree it's time to do something. if we've got lobbyists in washington, claiming to speak for gun owners, saying something different, we need to go to the source and reach out to people. directly. >> there's no legislation to eliminate all guns. there's no legislation being proposed to subvert the second amendmented. there won't be perfect solutions. we're not going to save every life. but we can make a difference. and that's our responsibility as americans. >> that's the reality of this gun debate. but the nra is pushing a fantasy. the head of the nra...

You're drawing parallel and say don't exist. >> how is it different? >> if you'll let me explain, i'll tell you. >> we completely objected the notion of what governor wallace has said at that time. what i am telling you is that you're using sovereignty of the state. >> all you have to do is read the bill of rights and it talkings about the sovereign fi of the states. and more importantly, we all know that washington is broken, horrible by broken. and here we have a president leveraging little children on stage for no other reason nan to gin up fear to say we're going to come and take the secon...