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Michael mckinley. michael mckinley is a former top official in the state department. i want to bring in james clapper, who is the former director of national intelligence. thank you so much, director. i appreciate you joining us. i want to start with the big picture, okay, because people at home might be thinking so what if trump fired an ambassador. his administration, his choice. but what we're seeing is giuliani, the president -- they were fixated on advancing this conspiracy that ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. is that why yovanovitch was targeted? she was in their way, you think?...

Of this sort of second channel, if you will, that was trying to do something else than what has been traditionally our policy towards ukraine. >> mm-hmm. yovanovitch described the rogue ukraine policy led by giuliani as a, quote, kind of partisan game in that giuliani and the former ukrainian prosecutor, quote, that they had plans and that they were going to, you know, do things, including to me. let's be clear here. yovanovitch was known to be championing anti-corruption in ukraine. so if that's really what the president cared about, why was she removed? >> well, a great question. to me, it's...

Teller. who is william taylor? he's the great william taylor because adam schiff has anointed him as such. a longtime state department bureaucrat, the acting ambassador to the ukraine, and he talks among other things the highly irregular conduct, the second channel with rudy giuliani going around the state department because, you know, sean, you can't go around the state department. there was a great piece in the real clear investigation -- george washington had a private party go around jefferson and the state department. bill clinton used jesse jackson and bill richardson to go around the st...

He's the great william taylor because adam schiff has anointed him as such. a longtime state department bureaucrat, the acting ambassador to the ukraine, and he talks among other things the highly irregular conduct, the second channel with rudy giuliani going around the state department because, you know, sean, you can't go around the state department. there was a great piece in the real clear investigation --n george washington had a private party go around jefferson and the state department. bill clinton used jesse jackson and bill richardson to go around the state department. richard nixon ...

Important, there were two channels, they were not official channels, this is the run through the united states senate, john brennan, senator harry reid and dianne feinstein's staff, that operation is going on through former staffers. second channel, i'm not talking about official intelligence channels, the second channel was the state department. diplomats and bureaucrats running intelop against president trump being run through victoria nuland and jonathan whiner. they have acknowledged the role. mark: we haven't gotten close to the bottom line. >> with all of that at the same time, there was...