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It's an abomination of people who decide to leave the faith. the rest of us are supposed to live as demmies, second class citizens if we don't convert or alternatively be killed. this is not consistent with any race of the united states or the founding documents. >> eric: he's down protesting against the planned community center. thank you, frank. >> jamie: you have probably heard a lot from people over the last few weeks for people who don't want the mosque so close to ground zero, but maybe you haven't heard this opinion. many defend the site as the right place for symbol of religious freedo...

Choosing certain people, classifying certain people as second-class citizens, and second-class people. that was uncomfortable for me. >> reporter: so, he said that this is a relief, but he knows that it is not done, suzanne, and as you can see, the fight will go on. >> jessica, give us a sense of the mood where you are. obviously a lot of people talking about massive protests, and concern about people mass exodus going to happen, and can you give us a seps nse of how people are feeling about this news today? >> yeah, there is a sense that the pressure is slightly let up, but no dramatic shift ...

And she had such a problem and she worked for him and wanted to kick the military off of her campus recruiting office and she said they had equal access through this veterans and recruiting went up during my tenure and critics said thanks to the hustle of the veterans, that is why the numbers went up, she cannot take credit for that. martha: it is interesting, and, he was narrowing it down to that, how do you feel about the military, when given the opportunity to work with them you gave them the run around, he said, and she said i revere the military and he said i'm not sure, which i thought, ...

Years dod agreed with us. >> msnbc, chief washington correspondent norah o'donnell covering all the hearings. norah that was a pretty tough one. >> reporter: it was, and elena kagan was interrupted multiple times but the leading republican on this committee. in fact, she was accused by senator sessions of punishing the military of treating them like second-class citizens. well, she vigorously defended herself, said she was not anti-military. but she did, in fact, briefly bar, of course, the recruiters from the office of career services. but she reiterated that she opposed don't ask don't tell ...

Second-class citizens, but the blacks didn't like it very much. >> mcgraw, every citizen has each individual rights that should be equal to the person standing right next to them, regardless of their race, creed, color, gender, whatever. so what do you say to that? >> mark, you have every right not to go to arizona. and anybody -- >> so does that school. >> but you know what -- >> these girls do not get that choice. why are you defending the right for everyone to have an opinion, except these girls? these girls -- >> the school has the right to its opinion. >> the school is expressing its opin...