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But we've been talking about racism and racial bias more in the context of police departments, and quite frankly, more in the context of people over 40. what was surprising to me was the notion that you have millennials who should -- i don't know should be educated should be more enlightened. i'm very surprised we still don't do better even though we know better. >> charles, you're shaking your head the idea that millennials should -- >> oddly enough strangely enough that's not what the data show. when you look at the data from the racial implicit bias test the group with the highest levels of...

Racism more in the context of police departments and quite frankly more in the context of people over 40. so what was surprising to me was the notion that you have millenials who should -- i don't know -- should be educated, should be more enlightened. i'm just very surprised that we still don't do better, even though we know better. >> charles, you're shaking your head. >> right, because strangely enough, that's not what the data shows. when you look at the data from the racial implicit bias tests, the group with the highest levels of bias are those that are older. we expect that. >> right. >...