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Think it's sometimes hard to -- when you talk about the post world war ii order and all of these international institutions and the u.s. being at the center of it, yadda yadda, it can feel airy and abstract and remote. what do you say to someone who says let them do whatever they wanted. he is standing up tough forus even the they think the president is acting parly what does it matter either way? >> let's think about it in two wears. first vis-a-vis russia. as our unified resistance to russia's invasion of ukraine atrophies it's going to be hard to keep those together if we are at war like th...

I say the constitution has to stand. i say that terror should not divide us, nor shoes terror teardown our laws and our constitution. you can't have it halfway. can't have half a constitution and say, okay we will treat him as an enemy comebattent but then we will try him later. we can change the laws or the constitution, but for convenience second let's to the drag our constitution into the toilet. president obama lincoln as president i have no eyes but constitutional eyes. that's the prism we should be viewing the case, a loathe some and disgusting and as horrible a citizen he is, he's still...

Rules and american laws. i say the constitution has to stand. i say that terror should not divide us, nor shoes terror teardown our laws and our constitution. you can't have it halfway. can't have half a constitution and say, okay we will treat him as an enemy comebattent but then we will try him later. we can change the laws or the constitution, but for convenience second let's to the drag our constitution into the toilet. president obama lincoln as president i have no eyes but constitutional eyes. that's the prism we should be viewing the case, a loathe some and disgusting and as horrible a ...