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Said denuclearization should be phased in with sanctions starting to be lifted for north korea. the opposite of the plan the u.s. wants. it is not clear how much kim will budge on that as he praised russian president vladimir putin for standing up to, quote, u.s. domination. but both trump and pompeo say meetings have been going well, things progressing. the president still hedging. >> all a process. we'll see. hopefully we'll have a meeting on the 12th, that's going along very well, but i want it to be meaningful. it doesn't mean it all gets done at one meeting, maybe you have to have a secon...

Terms of actually getting rid of north korean nuclear weapons. we haven't heard much about that in recent days. we heard a lot more about when and where the summit is happening and the logistical details. i hope the administration is spending just as much time on the subtans. >> you remember last week rudy giuliani talked about this and there is concern that he risked some sensitive negotiation somehow by talking about this. i'm sure these families won't rest until these folks are home. >> exactly. i think that giuliani's performance should be called that, performance. i have no idea what he w...

The united states is coming to the table in order to make an offer and there is not a lot of negotiations with regards to what they get up front. this is about getting rid of the nuclear program. if the north koreans are of the mind that there is room for negotiation here, this may be over before it even gets started. >> scott, this was the second surprise trip to north korea for the secretary. is he making progress here with north korea? >> well, i think so. and i like that we're getting the people back. i mean it wasn't that long ago that north korea was holding an american, torturing him an...

News on another front. south korean government officials saying he expects secretary of state mike pompeo to return home from north korea with three americans detained there. second pompeo is on his second trip, surprise trip to north korea at the invitation of kim jong-un's government. joining me to talk about this, our national security analyst and shawn turner and cnn political commentator scott jennings. good evening to both of you. this is good news for some family members and folks there. according to south korean government officials, mike pompeo expected to return home with the three a...

This meeting? >> well, i think, don, the north koreans are going to come into this meeting really understanding this administration in a way that some of the administration may not anticipate. look, you know, i think sam made a very good point. getting the hostages home is a very good move. i think the north koreans are going to come to the table in a position where they're going to be able to talk about what they've already done ahead of this meeting. i think this noeshgegotiation i going to be tougher. we have questions what it means to be give up their nuclear weapons. we still have concern...