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Be? do you think we'll see him run for president in 2024? >> that second question first, he certainly indicated he wanted to run for president in 2024, he's serious about it, looking and thinking about it, that's three years away, a long time in politics, he's already 75 years old, who knows when he turns 76, 77, if he'll feel up for the challenge. it's exhausting to run for president. and i asked him if he would pick pence again as his running mate in 2024 he would not commit to that. he made it clear that he would leave it open for a different running mate. i said, pence wants to run for pre...

About over the weekend was the rapidity with which you have been negotiating with the third country, the ability to bring flights into, you know, to expand the number of places throughout europe and the middle east, and why wasn't that done months ago, and you, yourself, you said that you knew that the chaos was going to erupt at some point, and why would there be the need to negotiate on the fly with these countries, if it could not have been done before. >> i will take the second question first. i will tell you they bristle at the fact that we bragged. okay. i have not bragged at anything. i...

Couple of specifics here, because these come up. they did define a little bit more clearly what they're calling immunocompromised. moderate and severe immunocompromised and if we have the list, we can put it up, but people who have had organ transplants, people who have recently or currently are taking chemotherapy for cancer, people who may take other types of medications which suppress their immune system. if you are immunocompromised, you probably know it, but that list will be available so you can cross check. but not things like heart disease and diabetes. sometimes those are thought of a...

Earlier this week on charges of acting as an unregistered foreign agent. will he remain locked up until at least monday when his bail hearing takes place and he's expected to plead not guilty. joining me now to discuss, former u.s. attorney and official chuck rosenberg. here is what i don't get. tom barrack has never been arrested before. does it surprise you that this guy is sitting in a jail cell until monday? how serious is this? >> well, second question first, stephanie, it's serious. it's not the crime of the century. it's not the lindbergh kidnapping but it's serious. it's a felony. not ...

As we mentioned, nbc news confirming a manhattan grand jury filed criminal docume indi against the trump organization and its long-term chief financial officer. we welcome back chuck rosenberg, former senior fbi official and attorney. happens to be the host of our msnbc podcast, the oath. chuck, what are you looking for tomorrow? and after, say, 2:00 p.m., when the indictments are unsealed, what chain of events does that then kick off? >> yeah. let me take the second question first, brian. after folks are indicted or, perhaps an organization, they appear in court. they are arraigned. they are ...