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>> oh, no. this is like -- i think this can be seen a couple of different ways which is why this conversation is so rich but i will say there is an article in theory eric holder and the administration are trying very hard to explain that, yes, we made a lot of mistakes. here is why we were doing what we were doing and they have to do it off the record because of obvious security concerns. >> but, steve, isn't it true, though, i founds this to be a great irony. these democrats that get swept into office by acclamatioacclam fawning members of the president, whether it was the clintons or the oba...

Every friday for a summer, karl rove, we heard, oh, today is the day he is going to be indicted. when the press knew and fitzgerald knew it wasn't he, but a close associate of colin powell that leaked valerie plame's name. >> steve schmidt, thank you so much. ahead, bob mcdonald makes a surprising new announcement on voting rights in his state and he joins us straight ahead, along with naacp president ben je jealous. "news you can't use" is next. s ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay -- you're covered w...

Holder play to that in the hearings recently, right? he basically made clear he felt victimed by isa and thought they were disrespectful to him and he used that very effectively. i think a legitimate point holder is making off the record meeting to explain why they are doing what they are doing but the concerns some of the press corps -- this is an investigation into whether there was an overreach or this is a complaint about whether there was an overreach into what the press does so that is why there is some line being drawn. >> howard, is there an overreach with the justice department? >> i ...

Perjury during his may 15th testimony on capitol hill. >> with regard to the potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material, that is not something that i've ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be a wise policy. >> just days after making that statement, of course, we learned about eric holder personally signing off on james rosen, that deal. jay carney yesterday rejected the claims that holder misled congress adding the president has confidence in holder's abilities as attorney general. >> howard dean said i don't want to look on twitter right now because th...