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And ron paul. it's the so-called second tier candidates that are hoping to surprise everyone with a stronger than expected result next tuesday. while an all out win for perry or bachmann or santorum, a second or third place finish would go a long way as the primary season continues in new hampshire. joining me no to discuss the likelihood of what is going to happen, perry supporter steve forbes. what these guys are going through in iowa and new hampshire is very familiar to you. in a sense, the battle for those second tier guys is the battle to secure the conservative support. bachmann and per...

That. all these candidates have some weakness but some are weaker than others and i think, particularly some of the second-tier candidates haven't proved they can generate enough enthusiasm and support that would carry over into a general election. jon: despite the weakness in the president's own polling numbers that we've just seen today? >> i think that's right. i mean i think that's one of the things that republican voters have to judge is electability. jon: that will be interesting to watch. paul gigot, "wall street journal". >> thanks, jon. jon: you can see paul tomorrow hosting the "jour...

"wall street journal" are you picking a winner? >> mitt romney helped himself the most particularly with his defense of his time at bain capital which is potentially understood to be a main vulnerability. it goes against his argument he knows how to create jobs. >> because he did close some companies. >> that's right. jon: or lay off staff members during his time. >> he took the argument on directly. look, sometimes private business has to lay off people to succeed and shape up companies that are failing. taking that on directly i think he helped himself. jon: capitalism can be a messy busines...

>> that ain't going to last. >> jon huntsman who is putting the reason they're hammering his campaign resources into the mitt right now, they're hoping first primary state responded to they make him bleed enough that the new hampshire union leader one of these second-tier -- endorsement of gingrich. >> or that romney emerges really >> it once again proves, chris, weak. and they're using humor in these how fluid and unpredictable new things, which is key, because it hampshire is. takes the edge off of it a people are just beginning to pay little bit for people and the attention and coalesce aro...

your first impression from what we learned from the eight republican candidates? >> i think there were a couple of really explosive parts of the debate for me. the first one was obviously iran. i thought that perry and gingrich led the way with strategy when it comes to iran. but the thing that sort of blew up in newt gingrich's face, i think, the discussion on immigration. he had a rick perry heartless moment with this. i think this is really going to impact him tomorrow. it's really going to impact him with grassroots conservatives. i can see both sides of the argument here. he was...