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System, we think, and obtained the information from it. so, exactly the sequence of that is still something i think investigators themselves may be trying to understand but they have concluded if not for a kaspersky they don't believe the hackers would have been able to identify the files on this computer and then retrieve them. >> what you describe as the -- as what was plundered in this case sounds incredibly scary to somebody who's just a lay observer of these things. thousand nsa penetrates foreign computer networks. the computer code it uses. how it defends networks inside the united stat...

The computer code it uses. how it defends networks inside the united states from the same kind of attacks from outside. how serious was this breach? >> it was very serious and officials were extremely alarmed about this. this situation was so dire that it was actually given a secret code name so officials talk about it in a closed setting and we understand in that multiple officials aware of this because of the implications that it held oftware or contractors or employees might have it at home and the kind of school tools and the computer code the nsa uses to spy on other countries. i mean, if...

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New york times" in which we learned the original investigation had a secret code name, cross fire hurricane. a nod to the rolling stones lyric from jumping jack flash and the agents were afraid of leaks so much so they kept details secret from the justice department, only five officials at doj knew the whole story. the facts had they surfaced might have devastated the trump campaign and his national security adviser was under investigation and his campaign chairman. one trump adviser appeared to have russian intelligence contacts, another was suspected of being a russian agent himself, unquote...