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It. i was with him yesterday in a series of meetings and had a chance of a conversation about it, yes. >> okay. >> about our -- absolutely. >> okay. so yesterday may have been the first time he was briefed about it. i want to ask -- >> that's possible, yes. >> i was going to ask about general votel, the information that jeanne shaheen, senator shaheen mentioned earlier. we expressed worriness of the working with russia. this is -- this is an interesting statement. they went after general votel, the head of the cent-com oversees military operations. with his statements, general votel not only d...

Yes. about our plan. absolutely. >> so yesterday may have been the first time he was briefed about it. i'm going to ask about general votel, the information that senator shaheen mentioned earlier. he expressed weariness about working with russia and the russian defense ministry. this is an interesting state. they went after general votel, the head of centcom that oversees military operations in the middle east. he dis credcredited the officia position of the commander-in-chief. do you know what that is? >> you have to speak with the russian ministry of defense to know. >> you can understand wh...