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That. and what happened eventually was we started to see a little bit of improvement in china's theft of u.s. tech but at the same time that china's theft of our stuff by cybermeans declined, russia's increased. you know, this was the russians weren't taking it for themselves, i think they were working with the chinese. and we have done very little to impose costs on china for this. one thing the trump administration is thinking of right now is the section 301 tariffs. section 301 of the trade act of 1974. the president has threatened tariffs on $150 billion of chinese goods. he's doing that t...

Again and feel like the old days are coming back with manufacturing jobs that can support a family. >> i think the problem with the tariff thing. >> those jobs are never coming back. >> maybe save a few jobs in a very automated industry which is steel and aluminum production which is already losing jobs based on automation. >> did you sebring the jobs back, he already has the vote. >> a lot more over here in automotives and that could hurt donald trump in other areas. >> charles: at this point both you guys have legitimate points next salvo in all of? a lot of people don't understand the u.s. ...

Not to say anything bombastic or burn bridges, say tactfully we disagree. talk about it, see where we can go and find common ground, do something but not necessarily place tariffs on companies shipping goods overseas. >> how can the community, internationally, as well, about united states and china and mexico or japan, say, or other countries right now, the fear, of course, is that could lead to a huge worldwide recession? >> we've haddings actions like this, very specific actions for many years. one action does not necessarily lead to a trade war. congress unfortunately m lly ma oppose these ...

Maintain his path towards a nuclear capable icbm which he sees as his own way way to survive and negotiate a way out of this. it also makes allies like south korea pretty darn nervous. the they're in range of the conventional artillery aligned all along the borders that could hit, they estimate just about every three square meter area of the capitol in the south. the it makes our allies nerf ous and china's point of view. they've got to come in to quiet this down. >> david, on the subject of china, clearly the president of the united states was hoping to get help from china to deal with north ...