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Between the holding up a security aide and the demand for investigations. you could think therefore earlier as jill and molly have said, that would be something that the president would want testified to. they decided to throw down the gauntlet. it's not about one witness. they decided across the board, they called a full halt tonight to any cooperation. what they're trying to say nothing about this is legitimate. so therefore, why involve it at all. again, the kangaroo court, exception of the constitution is one that has missed a lot of lawyers, but, you know, what they're doing is fighting i...

Between the holding up a security aide and the demand for investigations. you could think therefore earlier as jill and molly have said, that would be something that the president would want testified to. they decided to throw down the gauntlet. it's not about one witness. they decided across the board, they called a full halt tonight to any cooperation. what they're trying to say nothing about this is legitimate. so therefore, why involve it at all. again, the kangaroo court, exception of the constitution is one that has missed a lot of lawyers, but, you know, what they're doing is fighting i...

Go up against the president in a one on one and figure out the sweet spot of how to do it without muddying themselves. right now i think the jury is still out on which candidate is going to be able to do that. >> there are some great stories in a number of publications this weekend, please read them and come to your own conclusions. one of them being about how rudy giuliani relies on some untrustworthy sources from ukraine. kurt volker did testify. he said yes, the he was the security aide, he did not see he said at least in his opening statement, a link between the two. he also said this and ...

>> giuliani said he is trying to get the ukrainians to meddle. he says he had no intent to do that but he was very concerned about why the security aide was being cut off and even if there was not this explicit promise, that was certainly the impression. they could not help but connect these demands they were getting, and the sudden surprising cut off of security haid. >> that scenario is scary and repugnant on it's own terms no matter who the president is and what country he is putting the screws on. the ukraine is not just any country. they are at the center of the events a. they gave us thi...

Get the ukrainians to meddle. he says he had no intent to do that but he was very concerned about why the security aide was being cut off and even if there was not this explicit promise, that was certainly the impression. they could not help but connect these demands they were getting, and the sudden surprising cut off of security haid. >> that scenario is scary and repugnant on it's own terms no matter who the president is and what country he is putting the screws on. the ukraine is not just any country. they are at the center of the events a. they gave us this presidency in the first place. ...