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Been devices that functioned and very well intended to kill the target. one thing about bombers stuff is don't try to get into all kinds of motives that are out there without at least first looking at what's the obvious one. to hurt and attack the people he's sending the bombs to, that's pretty obvious. and it can't be dismissed. it could change, could be trying to scare people or wasn't really a bomb. all those things come into play, of course, but don't throw away he might have been intending to hurt all these people, even though he's not sophisticated in the security aspects of washington. ...

We know that the goodlatte bill has a lot of good things in it. probably is the most complete bill that's been filed. it will address eliminating the lottery, giving us the security aspects on the interior that we need and at the border. so there's a lot of members of congress that want this to move through. but we need those 60 votes in the senate. i hope people will step up, community and work with the sheriffs to get this done once and for all. >> trish: you're trying to get their attention. >> trish, if you think about this, if any sheriff was given a task to put something together, plan i...

Will keep things moving forward in the intervening time. but for exactly the reasons i said earlier, this opening with north korea, i can understand the reason why chairman corker and others may push for a quick hearing with mike pompeo. he won't need to come up to speed on the security aspects of north korea and iran and syria and russia, but what i hope he will come up to speed on is the centrality of trusting and supporting our career foreign service officers and the diplomats who are so essential to the success of the state department and the advocacy for human rights and values that has s...

Himself. it will be right back on his plate and it will be a disaster in my mind, because what we're looking at is we're looking at an event weight the president has to say we either back up from iran being a nuclear weapon or we go to war and that's not going to be a good war, i will guarantee you. >> right. and whether all of this works as a way to have other paths other than that march to war, you know, you explain it so well and it seems to me, if i can state the obvious, but sometimes that's a part of my job, it seems really unfortunate so many people are spending so much time trying to s...

Not making it worse. there's a wing of the party that can't stand mccain or flake. and that's actually donald trump's base here in arizona. so they mesh together well. mccain and flake, they talk up the security aspects during the primary and during the general election. come out for more comprehensive immigration reform with benefits for the millions of immigrants who have jobs and are raising families. >> thank you. i've seen that before. you're a little different in the primaries than the general and that's how you survive. thank you. up next, trump versus the facts. the numbers are in an...