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Conversations, senator , about, risks -- >> did the white house -- >> but i was not aware of this and i did not have these discussions with the white house because i wasn't aware of them. >> did the white house know there had been no end to end testing of the security aspects of the exchange? >> i think, the white house was aware of the operational issues involving end to end testing and, i don't know the specifics of, again, i did not have the discussions about this authority to operate issue with the white house. >> you testified last week in the house, that it was the law that made you stan...

We can't know, the train has left the station, but it does seem to have been a huge nudge. >> david, you heard congressman peter king say the president is letting edward snowden pull the puppet strings and this is another so-called apology tour for the president. what did you make of what the president said today? >> well, wolf, i welcome the fact that the president is talking about the national debate more fully. he's been meeting on this subject for a while, several weeks. all those conversations ramped up this week. he wanted to get this done before he went on vacation. republicans think he...

President. what did you make of what the president said today? >> wolf, i welcome the fact the president put this on the national debate more fully. he's been meeting, as we've learned, for awhile, several weeks. all those conversations ramped up this week. he wanted to get it done before he went on vacation. i'm not sure he pleased anybody, wolf. on one hand as you said, republicans think he's not protecting security, never made a robust defense the day of the security aspects of this and democrats worry that, you know, there is two public concerns. one is the scope of what is being monitored...

A rebust defense the day of the security aspects of this and democrats worry that, you know, there is two public concerns. one is the scope of what is being monitored and the other about the possible abuse of what is being collected. the president today talked about stopping abuses, preventing abuses but didn't narrow the scope so there is still this vast collection process going on and i do think for some americans listening, two weeks ago this president said washington had taken the eye off the ball on the economy. and here he is with the first press conference in a long time and sure enough...

So that was all before snowden. would this have happened without snowden? we can't know, the train has left the station, but it does seem to have been a huge nudge. >> david, you heard congressman peter king say the president is letting edward snowden pull the puppet strings and this is another so-called apology tour for the president. what did you make of what the president said today? >> well, wolf, i welcome the fact that the president is talking about the national debate more fully. he's been meeting on this subject for a while, several weeks. all those conversations ramped up this week. h...