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6% or under. with us now, karl rove. now, you know, look, the numbers are the numbers. but you can always pick up trends ahead, what's coming down. what do you see? >> well, if you look inside the fox poll, it says that if you look at who won the debate, they say fiorina number one. >> that's true. >> carson and kasich tied at 8. and rubio at 7. the people who lost at the big three who lost were trump at minus 13. paul at minus 11 christie at minus 7. everyone else in the middle. >> that's interesting because paul and christie went at it and they both came out on the short end of the security ...

6% or under. with us now, karl rove. now, you know, look, the numbers are the numbers. but you can always pick up trends ahead, what's coming down. what do you see? >> well, if you look inside the fox poll, it says that if you look at who won the debate, they say fiorina number one. >> that's true. >> carson and kasich tied at 8. and rubio at 7. the people who lost at the big three who lost were trump at minus 13. paul at minus 11 christie at minus 7. everyone else in the middle. >> that's interesting because paul and christie went at it and they both came out on the short end of the security ...