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Christopher ray. >> did you find evidence they'll try to do this again in. >> they're doing it as we sit here, and they expect to do it during the next campaign. >> the russians are absolutely intent on trying to interfere with our elections through foreign influence. >> is it fair to say everything we've done against russia has not deterred them enough? >> all the sanctions, all the talk, they're still at it? >> well, my view is until they stop they haven't been deterred enough. >> and they're still doing it? >> yes. >> despite those warnings, some republican senators blocking those attempts....

>> we'll see if it has an impact. thank you very much. joining us now, republican congressman will hurd of texas, congressman, thank you so much for joining us. >> wolf, i was a pleasure to be on with you. >> let's get back to the senate intelligence committee report. painting a frightening picture of how the russians could build on the capabilities they developed in 2016 to create chaos here in the united states on election day 2020. why can't election security bills, for example, make it through the senate right now? >> well, i don't know which of the bills the senate is working on, and ju...

Any candidate for the presidency of the united states, aware that if hostile foreign power is trying to influence an election has no duty to report that to the fbi or other authorities? >> i hope -- >> go ahead. >> i hope this is not the new normal, but i fear it is. >> and yet, despite robert mueller's warning that russia is still trying to meddle in u.s. elections, senate republicans yesterday blocked two election security bills as well as a cyber security measure. democrats tried to pass two bills that would require campaigns to alert both the fbi and the federal elections commission about ...

Yet that enhances the security of american voters come next year. >> you know, and i'm going to be as crass as i can politically here which will make my friends on social media happy. it's this. the irony here is politically the easiest thing for president trump to do would be to champion and sign these electoral security bills. is the easiest thing is to acknowledge that this is a threat. what is it -- i'm saying it slightly rhetorically here. but what does that tell you he doesn't want even want to do the easy politics to make it look like he cares about this? he truly doesn't care about thi...

The next campaign. i hope this is not the new normal but i fear it is. >> but i fear it is. he said it's happening right now. will hurd asked him the question. will hurd is a republican. yet a few hours later, the same day, senate republicans blocked not one but two election security bills. that seems extraordinary. >> well, how is this not the most important thing that came out of yesterday's hearing? >> i think it is. >> i mean, our democracy is literally under threat, under siege, under attack. one of the two major political parties in this country doesn't want to do anything about that. wh...