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Political process, impeachment. and the democrats are going to continue to bring, to have hearings to make document requests, potentially add subpoenas, have witnesses come in and continue to investigate this president out in the open. does the white house bet that having the president go out there and say it's harassment and it's an abuse of congress and it's a witch hunt, do they believe that their messaging will ultimately be more effective than anything that the democrats can bring to light, shannon? >> they do. certainly by 2020. the feeling i got from this nadler request yesterday was th...

Change parties ought not to put in automatic jeopardy the incumbent in the oval office. >> what do you think the difference is between today and between the '70s and nixon or today and the '90s and clinton? >> i think we're more tribal in our politics. i think we're a lot less open to hearing contrary information. i think we have our own media outlets that we listen to, almost in a cultist fashion. >> are you saying that makes it harder to bring articles of impeachment against a president? >> i think that makes it much harder to find a persuadable middle. contest this with watergate. nixon won...

The white house has issued a letter, a white house lawyer, essentially saying to elijah cummings, you have asked us for all this information about security clearances, which are an inherently executive branch function. you, the congress, have no right to inquire into this. you certainly don't have a right to know what the fbi and cia determined about jared kushner's fitness for a security clearance. and elijah cummings has responded this hour saying, well, in fact, there's plenty of press dependent for congre precedent for congress obtaining informing about fbi background checks. it may be in ...

Katy. i think there's a couple issues here. one is during watergate, in addition to the congressional hearings, you also had a special prosecutor and a grand jury that was establishing the crimes that had been committed. members of the president's inner circle had been charged and indicted in those crimes. you've seen people close to trump charged with crimes but not related to the kind of things we're talking about could potentially be impeachable offenses, with one exception. you've had in the southern district of new york prosecutors endorse michael cohen's view that donald trump ordered hi...

Evidence that is compelling and the brings along the american people. whether that leads to impeachment or not, that has to be a process. that has to be the end result of a process, not the beginning of a process. you may go to court or look at going to court to bring a criminal to trial. you still have to build a case. you don't just decide in advance someone is a criminal, let's put them away. and the president is entitled to due process, a fair process, and the american people are entitled to hear all the facts. let's remember the cohen hearing was the first public hearing on this set of tr...