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Security clearance only because president trump intervened and ordered a security clearance for his son-in-law, jared kushner, something the president has repeatedly publicly denied that he did. >> there's been a story in the news in the last two weeks about your son-in-law's security clearance. >> yeah. >> did you tell general kelly or anyone else in the white house to overrule security officials, the career veterans? >> no. i don't think i have the authority to do that. i'm not sure i do. >> you do. >> but i wouldn't. i wouldn't do it. jared is a good -- i was never involved with his securit...

Case here, if a case is to be had. we can't ignore criminal activity. but remember, this is the first public hearing, the first. it has to be a process. when we look back at watergate, that was almost a two-year process and it worked. it persuaded the american people that the person they put faith in didn't deserve it. >> leading off our discussion now, democratic congressman lloyd doggett of texas, also with us former federal prosecutor, barbara mcquade and jill wine-banks, a former assistant watergate special prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst is with us. congressman, i want to begin with...

About that. >> was the president involved in the clearance products? >> we don't discuss security cleanses. but the president has the right to do what was described. >> jared kushner's lawyer, abbe lowell, issued this statement, quote, whatever the accuracy or not of recent news stories, mr. lowell was not aware of, nor told of any request for or action by the president to be involved in the security clearance process. again, officials affirmed at the time that the regular process occurred without any pressure. meanwhile, house oversight chairman, elijah cummings, has given the white house unt...

Involvement in getting jared kushner security clearance. he had a number of issues on his security clearance form where he did not have access to certain people, and he should not have security clearance. he said he was trying to secure middle east peace, but a lot of people wonder if he's just trying to get a piece of the action. >> as you prioritize what you want to hear about, what you want to investigate, does this hold the level that you might want to hold a hearing on this, that you might issue subpoenas so you could hear from jared kushner and john kelly on this? >> possibly. and chairm...