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Happening on foreign intelligence services and others who look at the united states, what kinds of questions are they asking themselves as they watch this spectacle? >> i suspect they look at this as they looked at other recent episodes here where you have the president taking a position that is contrary to the intelligence community and his national security establishment and, again, they see a president going off in one direction, sort of attacking the intelligence community. because that's what this is. this is in some respects about john brennan but i think even more so is about politicali...

Keep their heads down and do not enter the spray. and they said in that letter that they are not entirely comfortable with everything that has been said, with everything that john brennan said, but they felt that the plitization of the security clearance process and the threat that that could potentially pose for current officials, which would be career ending for any of them including bruce orr, the mid-level justice official who is now under threat rhetorically from the president. that is what caused them to sign this letter. >> yeah. and we're going to be talking at 7:00 to three of the ori...

Cannot reveal. the way they see it he is exploiting the use of his security clearance and his supposed access to these documents or his supposed access to these past documents as a way to push a political narrative against the president, which he never once testified to under oath before congress. so they are saying that his use of that authority is an abuse of the security clearance process that it gives a veneer of authenticity to what he's saying. and so they would like to remove that veneer of authenticity and show him to be a political actor. jon: senator tim scott also shared some though...

Is of course secret and he cannot reveal. the way they see it he is exploiting the use of his security clearance and his supposed access to these documents or his supposed access to these past documents as a way to push a political narrative against the president, which he never once testified to under oath before congress. so they are saying that his use of that authority is an abuse of the security clearance process that it gives a veneer of authenticity to what he's saying. and so they would like to remove that veneer of authenticity and show him to be a political actor. jon: senator tim sc...

There is a reporter who would ask a question about the situation with john brennan who will bring that information as quickly as possible. >> lisa: all i was going to say is that i find it a little bit rich for the guy, john brennan while he was at the home of the cia had to apologize to senate intel committee members and then lying to them, so i find it a little bit rich that he is bemoaning abuse of power when clearly he is at the helm of the cia, abusing his power. or looking back, i do not think it is quite as addictive as using the irs for political opponents either. >> marie: mike flynn ...