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This person we picked up in yemen or afghanistan. what do you recall about this case? how should we proceed? what about what's happening in pakistan? it's to create a council of advisers, of former cia directors who don't need to go through the clearance process and look at current intelligence. it's more for the benefit of the current intelligence. the great irony is this president is denying his own cia and other agency officials access to the wise counsel of brannan now and presumably the others who are on this list. it's an extraordinary step, it is akin to the nixon enemy's list and unpre...

List and unprecedented. without any basis, there is no claim here by sarah sanders today there was any release of classified information, there was any violation of law. mike flynn lost his clearance either before or during his arrest, that's because of a legal case. we have people in this white house, and we know how abusive and how abused the security clearance process was, this comes just after we've learned omarosa was fired in the situation room, and made a recording in the situation room. we have a president who divulged some of the most secret intelligence that israel had about isis to ...

Away quickly. this is something the white house knows will fill headline space and kweez other things out, that is what they're trying to do. to your point about very big and very small. this is not a small thing to have a president suggesting retribution for political criticism in this way. it is leveling out, flattening out where everything is the same, everything is political. nobody can have a motive other than good bad, up down about donald trump. there is that mirroring aspect where he takes criticism that's been levelled against him and his administration and puts it back somewhere else...

Public and to our adversaries. so it's a process and reminds people -- this is why i like the clearance process, it reminds them you have an obligation. by the way, it will be criminal if you disclose this information unauthorized for the protection of the information of the u.s. government. so, yes, there's a lot of them, but yes, there's lots of work that goes across the government that you need to at least safeguard to some degree. and i think that's probably wholly appropriate. i think we are going to relook -- the government i should say is going to relook at the security clearance proces...

Of institutional knowledge. if you're an analyst sitting at nsa or cia and working on a program that may be informed by something a former director said, the white house is saying that's off limits. this hurts national security. i'll say, alisyn, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the security clearance process. they cannot distinguish between misusing classified information, which no one has been accused of, and criticism. if you look at the rob porter scandal f you look at jared kushner and his issues with security clearances, it shows that continued narrative. i would say and submit tha...