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There was nothing out of the ordinary here when there was, and the president -- the kellyanne conway is right in that statement. that the president has the authority to do this. in which case the bigger question here is why didn't he just say i said jared kushner, my son-in-law, he's my guy, i want him -- and i'm giving it to him. >> why didn't he own up to it, i guess. >> right. what was the pressure to cover it up? why? >> matt miller, you compared this to the way donald trump also treats the criminal justice system. what parallels do you see? >> so in each case, in both the -- the security ...

Cummings also inquired about jared kushner's security clearance and that of the current national security adviser, john bolton, particularly given his past interactions with maria beauty butina, who has now pled guilty acting as a secret agent for the russian government trying to infiltrate the conservative movement and the republican party. did y'all check out bolton with regard to maria butina before you made him national security adviser? did he disclose that? did you know about the video he did for her group, the one with the russian subtitles? so we know that the security clearance issue ...

Of the president. and after that, sarah sanders, the white house press secretary, she not only confirmed that the president was considering revoking john brennan's security clearance, but said that he was also considering revoking the clearance of several other officials. michael hayden, for example, the former director of the national security agency. susan rice, the former national security adviser and james clapper, of course, the former director of national intelligence. and of course, this would be an unprecedented use of the president's power over the security clearance system. and james...

Holding the briefing book with the most sensitive information, you're literally standing next to the guy who has the nuclear football. you need to have that security clearance. you're in the limo when the president is having conversations with foreign leaders, when they are discussing sensitive operations. yeah, you're not deciding what happens. but you're overhearing all of that. so had person absolutely needs to have a permanent security clearance. >> and we don't know if he had one, whether he was in the sort of interim kind of loophole that rob porter used or he had actually been grand one...

Their jobs. >> there is something that -- i'm stunned by what you said. but let me bring up john kelly again because he's had mitt that the white house has had issues when it comes to the security clearances. that is stunning to me. staunding that it is coming from him because he should know about all of this. >> he certainly should. and i worked for four chiefs of staff. and at the end of the day as chief of staff, you are responsible for your staff. even jared kushner. and so i think in a kethat kell faced with a decision of how does he get the process back on the rails and make clear that a...